I'm just going to complain for a sec so if you don't want to read it then don't, this is more to just vent than anything else. So we're approaching like day 30 or something in the paleo challenge and except for four instances, I have kept a strict paleo diet. despite doing this I don't feel any better than I did on day 1, I haven't lost or gained weight, and I really don't think I have lost much of my body fat. I am continually forcing myself to not eat all these unhealthy foods and I begin to wonder why.
again I'm not writing this for commiseration or criticism, I'm just frustrated.
What are you eating day to day? Also, not to bullshit, but you did not stick to a full 30+ days of paleo eating.
ReplyDeleteas I said there were 4 occasions where I didn't.
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ReplyDeleteday to day, usually 2 eggs in the morning with peppers onions and mushrooms. lunch usually chicken, peppers, onions, squash and zucchini. snack at about 3:30 is a banana. dinner usually 2 eggs and avocado and walnuts all blended up.
ReplyDeleteafter I workout either a hard boiled egg, couple handful of mixed nuts, some meat or one of those paleo kit things. I don't really vary from this that much, anything else is generally way to much work. However (per my allowances I stated at the beginning) most of the meat is not grass fed so maybe that's where I'm going wrong, but I do end up taking Omega 3 supplements (cause fish sucks).
oh also I eat a ton of boiled spinach cause that stuff is great.
ReplyDeleteDoogie help me add up some protein numbers here...
ReplyDeleteI have Nimmer at roughly 100g of protein if he's lucky. No way you are going to gain lean mass eating that way dude.
egg- 7g protein
chicken (6 oz)- roughly 25g protein
paleo kit- 28g protein
EAT MORE PROTEIN, you're poor body is starving...:)
okay more protien, gotcha. I thought 100g was a lot. So should I just overload on meat from now on? I can try to eat like a chicken a day if that would help.
ReplyDelete"I thought 100g was a lot."
ReplyDeleteIf you're trying to gain and you are not literally stuffed right now and you are not currently eating you are doing it wrong. (Ok I may be exaggerating slightly, but still.)
How much do you weigh? How much lean body mass is your goal?
Doogie, perhaps you can let me post here and I can relate my story on LBM gains and diet highs and lows. I know a lot on this topic and would be happy to help.
Sheena is correct, and that was my first thesis.
ReplyDeleteNimmer, I am going to assume that you want to increase your lean body mass while avoiding fat mass gain. You must increase what you are eating. You are probably feeling bad because you are not eating enough food. The folks from paleo challenge one struggled with this during the begging. For the last couple of weeks try eating 200 grams of protein a day. For example eat 4 to 5 eggs for breakfast, and one pound of grass fed beef. For lunch mix one pound of grass fed beef with vegetables, and for dinner mix 1/2 pound of meat with vegetables. What are your thoughts?
It also sounds like a lot of the same -- tons of eggs! I personally believe eggs are quite possibly the perfect food, but you seem to be neglecting so many other great choices and possibly building in boredom unnecessarily. Check out the whole roasted chicken at Gene's. It's delicious, cheap and ready-to-eat.
ReplyDeleteAlso, not sure if the taste of fish sucks to you, or if it's the thought of preparation. If it's the preparation, an easy thing is a package of frozen tilapia fillets from Jewel. The quality is actually pretty good (not from the seafood counter--get them from the frozen section). They are individually wrapped, so you just take out however many you need (I usually go for 2-3 since the portions are very small), stick it in a bowl of cold water for 15-20 minutes so it can defrost. Coat with some S&P, press in almond flour and fry it up in a pan with some coconut oil in it for about 3 minutes/side. Squeeze some lemon over the top and you have dinner in under 10 minutes of work.
Joel, post me your email address and I will add you as an author.
ReplyDeleteDT, around 160 and around 5-6% body fat. Doogie to be clear, not trying to be sarcastic so don't take it that way, my schedule should be:
ReplyDeleteBreakfast: 4-5 eggs and 1 lbs of beef
Lunch: 1 lbs beef w/ some vegetables
Dinner: 1/2 pound of meat w/ vegatables.
should I not worry about post workout food then? (not that I want to, just the thought of that much food makes me feel queasy)
Nimbles, I'd aim for 230g protein/day (~1.5g/lb lbm) and move up as you gain weight. As far as timing of meals, I just try to eat most of my meals periworkout (before and after).
ReplyDeleteI have also seen this regimen very favorably reviewed and in line with current research and what many top level athletes follow.
(please note I am not a bb.com reader nor do I post there, but Alan Aragon is a great nutritionist to athletes and I do subscribe to his newsletter)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=11356062&postcount=3088
Doogie, my E-mail is my first initial followed by my last name @gmail.com.